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These are the convos you wish you could have with your own C-suite. Nerdy, candid, unexpected: Top execs talk leadership + the future of business, sharing predictions, takes, and tips.
Hear what’s next for business — and your career.
In this conversation series, the guests are your personal leading indicators. AI’s changing everything fast, so CIO.com Hall-of-Famer Patrick Thompson and transformation legend Kerry Brown are getting to know a hand-picked set of tech-savvy senior execs, both as leaders and as human beings — and gathering intel on what the future holds for enterprises (and viewers like you) along the way.
Episode 1: Marina Bellini,
President, Global Services and Digital Technologies, Mars
In another life, Marina Bellini says she would have happily been a schoolteacher or an actress. Today, her job is something else entirely: overseeing digital technology for Mars, Inc., one of the largest pet care and CPG companies in the world.
In the premiere episode of Leading Indicators, Celonis’ Kerry Brown digs into what makes this Fortune 500 CIO tick. They discuss:
- Marina’s atypical journey to CIO — a position she’s held across brands like PepsiCo and AB InBev — and how indirect paths make versatile leaders
- The one question every enterprise should ask before any AI project
- Indispensable rules for leadership, like why the “smartest person in the room” doesn’t exist
- The most underrated skill in IT leaders
- Which tech trends are overhyped, underhyped, and just right
Watch now!
Marina Bellini
President of Global Services and Digital Technologies, Mars
"'I need to do AI. I need to modernize.' Why? Everybody's being inundated with tech solutions that can magically transform your life. But I don't need all of that. In some cases, the solution will be in a process, in data, in people. And in some cases, it'll be in technology."
Episode 2: Jeff Sherman,
SVP & CIO, W.R. Grace
He says he’s never used his PhD a day in his life. We disagree. These days, Jeff is CIO of Grace: a $4B+ company manufacturing chemicals you may not be able to pronounce, but that are critical for everything from beer to medicine.
So how’d Jeff go from dissertation to CIO? And how is he seeing AI change the way everyone at Grace works, from the factory floor to the corner office? Celonis’ Patrick Thompson is on the case. They discuss:
- How to ID AI solutions that make sense for your enterprise
- Why Jeff reorganized IT to focus on building relationships
- How new IT talent is shifting from knowing code to knowing the business
- Which tech trends are over- and under-hyped
- How to know when the answer isn’t AI, and is “just digital”
Watch now!
Jeff Sherman
SVP & CIO, W.R. Grace
“Context is everything, right? If you don't have that picture and the context of how that fits, you don't even understand the value that could be there. That then allows you to prioritize. And it’s not always about the money you have to go fix it — it’s the people. The peoples’ time is valuable.”
Episode 3: Lloyd Adams,
COO, Global Enterprise Sales, Microsoft
Lloyd Adams was “most likely to get fired” during training for his first tech job. Now, he’s COO of Global Enterprise Sales at Microsoft — without ever having worked as an Account Executive.
Celonis’ Kerry Brown joins Lloyd to talk through his atypical trajectory, how AI’s reshaping enterprises (and C-suite jobs) and why curiosity is crucial.
They discuss:
- Why some companies excel at AI while others struggle
- How the C-suite should be using AI
- Whether the SaaS-pocalypse is real
- What shift-to-cloud tells us about AI transformation
- Why the AI mandate is differentiation, not productivity
- How AI’s changing change management
Lloyd Adams
COO, Global Enterprise Sales, Microsoft
“Organizations that are struggling with AI…they’re relegating it to another part of the company to figure out for everybody else. It's not something that can be relegated to IT. We're going to see CEOs putting their own personal stamp on it.”
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